Posts by Open mind

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Orchestral Accompaniment for Singing at Congregation Meetings

by pixel in

to all congregationsre: orchestral accompaniment for singing at congregation meetings.

dear brothers:.

many will find that the newly composed orchestral recordings are more inspiring andconducive to our worship than is piano music alone.

Open mind

"practiced beforehand"

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

Dad: "Alright kids, that's it for our Family Worship Night. Now who'd like to take a little extra time to practice the latest Kingdom Melodies instead of watching your favorite TV show?"

Tools.

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4 boes just arrived and we appreciate our informants assistance... click the links below and then click the green download button.. .. 2015 april 6, boe (re: electronic convention program and convention releases).

.. http://wwwb.fileflyer.com/view/gqk7qat.

.. .. .. 2015 april 21, boe (re: programme for special meeting with headquarters representatives).

Open mind

Marking.

Thanks for everything Atlantis and associates.

om

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NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments

by Newly Enlightened in

thanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.

Open mind

Marking.

Thanks so much for Apostate Food at the Proper Time!

om

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...Which Way is the Cat Going?!...

by OUTLAW in

i found this on yahoo news... while it doesn`t raise an important question... it raises an interesting question... .

........................................... ..........................

Open mind

Towards the camera.

om

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Shunning Styles 101. Any I missed? Care to elaborate?

by Open mind in

my oldest brother got baptized at 12 and realized he was 100% gay at 12 1/2.

sucky timing huh?

he fought the fine fight of the abstinent until his mid-twenties and then decided he couldn't live like that anymore.

Open mind

Thanks for all the replies. Thought I'd give a little more input on Shun Style #6 since it's what prompted this thread.

My Mom recently had some severe medical problems which required me to be by her side for about a week and then, since I have a job/life/family of my own, my DFed brother stepped in to be there for another week or so. She had to be transported to a distant city for treatment/rehab so she's been pretty isolated from her JW contacts. Mom wanted to talk to a "sister" from her home congregation on the phone. My DFed brother made the call for Mom using her cell phone. (She's not very capable to make the call herself just yet.) As soon as the "sister" answered the phone my brother recognized her voice and handed the phone over to Mom. They chatted for a few minutes and then Mom started to fade. She needed to sign off because she was so weak. The "sister" still wanted to know many more details about Mom's condition/prognosis. Mom told her "Hey, I'm feeling very tired, how about if I let my son Lucifer fill you in on the details?"

JW "sister" went into full blown Shun Style #6. My very tired, extremely medicated, flat-on-her-back Mom had to talk the terrified, obedient, cult member into talking to my DFed brother. She had to tell her that it's OK, it's "Necessary Family Business" (tm). Finally, the terrified cult member relented and talked with my brother for a few minutes.

FACE PALM!

DRAMATIC HEAD SHAKE!

HELLO WATCHTOWER!?!

Do you have a clue how F**ked up this policy is?

om

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Shunning Styles 101. Any I missed? Care to elaborate?

by Open mind in

my oldest brother got baptized at 12 and realized he was 100% gay at 12 1/2.

sucky timing huh?

he fought the fine fight of the abstinent until his mid-twenties and then decided he couldn't live like that anymore.

Open mind

My oldest brother got baptized at 12 and realized he was 100% gay at 12 1/2. Sucky timing huh? He fought the fine fight of the abstinent until his mid-twenties and then decided he couldn't live like that anymore. Got DFed and 100% shunned by the rest of us 2nd & 3rd gen JW family for about 20 years. Then I woke up to TTATT about 8 years ago. He forgave me for my obedience to the cult and we've at least had the last 8 years to try making up for lost time.

As our JW parents had various health issues arise over the last few years, it's been interesting seeing how he's been treated when the "Necessary Family Business(tm)" situation occurs. Recently, he sent me an e-mail describing how he was subjected to Shun Style #6 listed below. I was surprised who administered this shun and, I had forgotten that #6 even existed. With no further ado, I give you:

Shunning Styles, 101

Trying to be Nice Styles:

1. Entitled Elder trying to be nice. (Entitled because, as an Elder, he's not necessarily breaking any rules by talking to the DFed person.)

2. Un-entitled R&F, playing by the rules, but still trying to be nice.

3. R&F, not playing by the rules for whatever reason, and being nice.

Not-so-nice styles:

4. Complete, but not necessarily noticeable, shun. JW happens to notice DF person from a distance and subsequently does whatever it takes to COMPLETELY avoid ANY contact, visual or otherwise.

5. Dogsh*t-under-my-shoe shun. JW makes a point of making eye contact with DFed person and then abruptly turns away. Most dramatic if a sneer is delivered just prior to the turn-away. (This shun is always delivered with maximum condescension and Holier-Than-Thou self-righteousness.)

6. "OMG! It's a demon-possessed, DFed Monster! Grab your kids and run!" - shun. This shun is delivered by a true-believing, ultra-obedient cult member. No condescension, just fear.

If you have any other categories to add, feel free. Or if you'd care to elaborate on any of the categories I've described, have at it.

om

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I Haven't Missed a Meeting in Years!

by Oubliette in

i recently ran into a jw i knew from a few years back.you know how it goes, a few pleasantries that always seem much more awkward than they really should (not for me, mind you--for him).and then the question, "so what congregation are you attending?

are you able to make the meetings?

"i'm thinking: do you always start conversations this way?so anyways, knowing full well the jw-mindset, i decided to have a bit of fun.furrowing my brow, i said, "that's an odd question!

Open mind

Love it! You just made our Sunday morning!

We'll be having dinner with a old JW friend soon. Tucking this one away for possible use.

om

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A Question for Underground Apostates, How Many Are There?

by Village Idiot in

when i first came to this forum i was of the belief that those of us who were still in due to family reasons were few in numbers perhaps one in a thousand in the jws.

soon i came to the realization that there were many more.

we have dozens of posters here who are mentally out but still in.

Open mind

I was a closet apostate elder for about 2.5 years until my wife finally awakened. We faded pretty rapidly within a matter of months after that.

om

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Faders: did local JWs give you a going away party?

by Open mind in

for those who choose to fade, leaving your old congregation is often a first step.

did you switch congos while stll in "good standing" (tm)?

if so, did the local jws try to give you a going away party?

Open mind

Thanks for all the replies everyone!

Since we didn't get a going away party, I think we'll count our first Lake Tahoe Apostafest a few years back as a "Welcome Home" party.

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Faders: did local JWs give you a going away party?

by Open mind in

for those who choose to fade, leaving your old congregation is often a first step.

did you switch congos while stll in "good standing" (tm)?

if so, did the local jws try to give you a going away party?

Open mind

Hello,

For those who choose to fade, leaving your old congregation is often a first step. Did you switch congos while stll in "Good Standing" (tm)? If so, did the local JWs try to give you a going away party? Did you accept?

We were in the same congo for well over 10 years. I had served as an elder for most of that time. Raised our kids there. I learned TTATT about 2.5 years before my wife did. As soon as the blinders came off for her my first move was to "step aside" as an elder. A couple months later, we decided to switch congos. Since there was no obvious external reason for our move (job change, aging parents, being asked to move to help a different congo, etc.) the local JWs probably took our decision as a bit of a "screw you". Therefore, no one organized a "going away" party for us. On the one hand, it hurt a little bit, but overall, we're glad we didn't have to put on fake smiles and deal with a couple hours of nosy questions.

How about you?

om